Andy ([info]emperoraf) wrote,
@ 2009-10-25 17:06:00
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On The Roman Option


NO DOUBT, YOU'VE all heard that Rome is offering a home for Anglicans -- both in and out of communion with Canterbury. The offer: submit to the Roman Catholic Church and you can keep your thoroughly Anglican ways, everything from the Prayer Book to married Priests. This is an open invitation to whole communities who are dissatisfied with the current state of Anglicanism. Whether that dissatisfaction be the conversation over Women Bishops (in the C of E), the consecration of +Gene Robinson (in TEC), or anything else. Of course, what I find ironic about all of this is that the Anglo-Catholic parishes this is intended to reach probably don't use the Prayer Book and are more "Roman" in style and practice than the Roman Catholic St. So-and-So's down the street. Anyway, there is much commentary on a variety of blogs (just visit those in the sidebar) that I feel I have nothing more to offer in terms of understanding this action. That is, except my personal feelings.

SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT, many have come up to me and asked me if I have plans on taking the Papal offer. Friends from my Parish said they thought of me immediately when the announcement was made and my not-so-crypto-Papism. When I was back at my Alma Mater for a rehearsal on Wednesday, I was stopped by a few friends asking me what I was going to do.

OF COURSE, THEY are not without recourse for thinking that. I once wrote a serious of posts entitled Don't Be Shocked If You End Up Back Home, which detailed my spiritual journey to almost becoming Roman Catholic. It would have happened, if AO hadn't offered me to go to Church with him back in '06 (Thanks, Andy!). The real clincher, so to speak, was hearing ++Katherine. Anglicanism was the way that I could practice the Catholic faith once delivered to the Apostles and Saints without the Dogma and Pontiff of the Roman Church.

I AM A self-titled Anglo-Catholic (of the Prayer Book variety). I pray the Rosary, believe in the Transubstantiation and genuflect-to-my-heart's-content (bow to the altar, knee to the tabernacle) without disagreement. I make statements that I think that all should be facing East and that Latin is of high priority, though it is not Our Lady's native tongue (ie. the Queen's English). The Daily Office and the Mass are the bread-and-butter of my prayer life; I own a copy of the Anglican Breviary and know how to use it; The St Augustine's Prayer Book is always nearby. The Sacrament of Reconcliation at least once a month. I follow the calendar and I always set a goal to fast on Fridays. I personally prefer that the Eucharist be done with as much solemnity and holy awe as possible: to look and smell more like a Roman Mass than the Protestant equivalent. Oh yeah, and don't call me Protestant -- that pisses me off.

LIKE MY OTHER friends and fellow parishioners, you're probably asking yourself, "Is he going to take the Roman option?" Let me see if I can adequately answer this:
  1. Obviously, I could easily become Roman without much change in my day-to-day life. But, I'm not Roman for a reason: the Anglican Ethos. In a few ways like our Roman mother (and in so many ways unlike her), Anglicanism is the home of a broad Catholicity. Within Anglicanism, we have and celebrate everything from the highest-of-the-high to the lowest-of-the-low and everything in between, celebrating all streams as a valid and authentic expression of the faith once delivered to the Apostles and Saints.
  2. That's because, at least to me, the faith once delivered to the Apostles and Saints consists not in whether or not one prays the Rosary or engages the Confessional, but the faith once delivered is the Creeds. As long as a person professes that same faith in Creeds, I trust their own judgment (in union with their Bishop, spiritual director, and community) in how to best live out the faith they profess.
  3. As far as I can tell, Rome defines Catholicity as specifically as possible. Everything from stances on contraception to disbelief in the Immaculate Conception of Our Lady are all grounds for excommunication (though seldom enforced). Yes, the Creeds are there, but there is so much more that is required to be a member in good standing. Faith, as I understand the Roman view, seems to be found in specific ideologies, not in the theology of the Church. While I agree with many of their ideologies, I do not and will not use those ideologies as a litmus test to see who is a truer Christian.
To me, therefore, becoming under the allegiance of the Roman Pontiff and their dogma (even though I believe most of it) would mean that I would give up this broad catholicity that Anglicanism so wonderfully incarnates. In short: in becoming Roman Catholic, I would give up being Catholic. Do I have my problems with The Episcopal Church? Yes, but in my opinion, these are not creedal issues; therfore, I do not see them requiring that I fly elsewhere.

FINALLY: ONE OF the things I loved about working at Atlanta's Episcopal Church of the Holy Comforter is that the hot topics of Anglican politics never came up. I mean, they never came up (the one time that it did, a member said, "If we get kicked out of the Anglican Communion, will someone email us?"). My theory: the reason why it never came up was because we were too damn busy feeding, serving, praying with and loving those who were in need. We didn't have the time to care. And it taught me a very important lesson.

THEREFORE, MY SUGGESTION to my Anglo-Catholic brethren in the US, next time you think about +Gene Robinson or Women Bishops or whatever it is that makes you mad, get up and do something (this applies to my progressive brethren, too). Polish the pews. Straighten the Prayer Books. Visit the lonely. Feed someone who is hungry. Sweep the front walk of the Church. Put your anger and confusion to benefit the Church. Or you know, you could actually do the Anglican thing and pray. Next time you want to complain about the state of whatever, take you and your fellow complainers, go before the Most Blessed Sacrament and pray for whatever/whoever it is that makes you angry. I think the dialogue would get a whole lot more Christlike.




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[info]luvs_chicago
2009-10-26 11:30 am UTC (link)
What is TEC? I only know that abbreviation as Teens Encounter Christ, and I doubt that's what you're referring to.

Having been born & raised as Catholic as can be, I would dare say that a lot of this is resulting from the fact that people my age & younger are leaving the Catholic church in droves. Most of my friends from high school still maintain the label "Catholic", but they only practice on Christmas & Easter. The numbers of the faithful, weekly attenders in the Catholic church have been dropping rapidly the last time I heard, and I'd guess that this is how they're trying to make up for it.

Surprisingly, I have a lot of the same issues with the Catholic church as you. But, that's probably why I left it at 17. (For the record, you can't get excommunicated just because you use birth control, though you would have to confess it and repent. Or, just do like a lot of people from my high school did, and get knocked up at 16.)

I'm curious -- how would people be practicing Catholics and have married priests? Unless they ordain already married Anglican priests, how would that happen? They're not changing their position on that, are they?

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[info]emperoraf
2009-10-26 08:49 pm UTC (link)
TEC: The Episcopal Church.

Thank you for the nuance about Contraception, et. al. Whether or not excommunication occurs, in many eyes, it still makes you a second-class Roman Catholic if you do use birth control. This is something that wouldn't happen as much in Anglicanism, since it is not a Creedal issue.

Re: Married Priests. If I'm understanding it correctly, the provision means that whole Anglo-Catholic communities can come under the Rome, including their already married priests. Many have said that this openness causes ire among those who think clerical celibacy should not be allowed. Only those who are already Bishops and not married can stay Bishops, however.

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[info]blackpearl777
2009-10-26 04:01 pm UTC (link)
This news reminds me of a business merger offer. Like one of the big banks offering to 'save' a smaller bank by offering a merger.

Usually what it amounts to is the smaller business being 'swallowed up' and 'disppearing'...

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[info]emperoraf
2009-10-26 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Agreed.

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[info]mr_messy
2009-10-28 01:59 pm UTC (link)
Sometime fairly early on in my degree I decided that I was Christian, but attended X for the purpose of worship. I knew by that point in time that no church had it all correct. Not the Roman Catholic, not the Orthodox, none of the reformation churches, not one out there had everything right. The closest in form (not necessarily theology) was a house church I attended for a while. When I first heard about the RC offer, the cynic viewed it as a membership grab that would result in fewer number than they would be expecting. In Canada we already have several groups that satisfy the need for a more "orthodox" Anglicanism. So, there won't be many from Canada making the switch anytime soon. The biggest issue of these newer groups is figuring out who owns the churches and the land they sit on.

So, I remain a Christian. Though I hesitate to call myself a Biblical Christian because of the baggage and misuse of Paul's epistles that is often attached to that term. I love the "bells and smells" of an orthodox Church I attend periodically. I like the fiery passion I sometimes see in Pentecostal churches. The last one I attended, the pastor was talking of holding a no strings attached Christmas dinner for the neighborhood, or even going around giving each household a Christmas present - there is at least one low rent housing project in their area. The most unique musical experience was the one time I attended a Salvation Army church. Yes, they had a brass band supplying the music. It was unusual, but enjoyable. I also had two other musical experiences at opposite ends of the scaled. One was at a pentecostal church, and there were almost 40 people in the praise ... well, it was a bit bigger than a team :) - it had a choir, guitars, flutes, piano, and a cello and violin. The other experience was at a methodist church with a self taught teenager playing the piano and somebody playing a guitar quietly. Both were as enjoyable as each other, and both spoke to me.

Your last paragraph reminded me of the chorus to one of my favourite Casting Crowns songs. I want to bring that chorus to my current church and lay it on their hearts. Here is that chorus:

But if we are the Body
Why aren't His arms reaching
Why aren't His hands healing
Why aren't His words teaching
And if we are the Body
Why aren't His feet going
Why is His love not showing them there is a way
There is a way

- Hope you like my icon - from one of my all time favourite Larson cartoons.

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Devil's Advocating
[info]theboynamedfred
2009-10-29 04:34 am UTC (link)
All right - time again for Tim to play Devil's (Angel's?) Advocate.

Ms. Chicago - Catholic attendance is hardly dropping off if it's gone down just %1 in the United States. Credit that to immigration or what you will, but even around the world, the numbers aren't so bad as all that. According to a Georgetown study, the American church has increased at least five million from 2000 to 2009. (http://cara.georgetown.edu/bulletin/)

Regarding the position of Anglican priests, Rome already has a policy of conferring Holy Orders upon married Anglican priests who convert and wish to remain priests. If you think this is something extraordinary, the Latin Church has been recognizing the orders of the Eastern Rite for quite a while. (Part Two, Chapter Three, Article 6, Section VII. # 1580 of the Catechism goes into greater detail than this.)

Mr. Blackpearl - the analogy of the business merger offer operates under the assumption that these two companies were not, at one point, the same company. (Seeing as, after all, they do operate under the same Management . . .) Wouldn't a more proper analogy be that of plant grafting, where both plants intermesh organically and take on the strengths of both?

Mr. Messy - As someone who spent most of college attending a house church and the local IV chapter as well as the Episcopal church, I can certainly attest to the appeal of multiple liturgical traditions. I even went through (and Mr. Ford can witness to this) a Charismatic period in my youth. And I recognize the positive aspects of each. So does the Catholic Church. As it proclaimed at the Second Vatican Council, Jesus Christ "subsists in the Catholic Church" (Lumen Gentium, Paragraph 8). The Church recognizes that She is not the be-all, end-all source of Christ. However, as the Visible Church on Earth, She is afforded a special place, some might say the most exalted, in the history of the world's salvation. If people want to see the Way, I hope it would act, but I sure would also hope it were visible. "Quid est veritas?" "Est vir qui adest." (And speaking of seeing, nice Larson picture.)

Mr. Ford - Don't think you've gotten off the hook yourself. Take a look at my journal before too long.

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